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Man shoots black kid cops do nothing
« on: March 14, 2012, 12:26:01 am »
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Re: White guy shoots black kid cops do nothing
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2012, 01:55:20 am »
Saw this on FB. He was basically murdered for being black. Post-racist society my ass.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/13/trayvon-martin-sanford-state-attorney_n_1343223.html?ref=mostpopular

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The police initially told Martin’s family that Zimmerman said he acted in self-defense and that his record was “squeaky-clean.” During a press conference on Monday, Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee echoed that his investigators were unaware of Zimmerman’s prior arrests.

But Zimmerman was arrested in 2005 on charges of resisting arrest. The charges in that case were dropped, according to county clerk records.

Members of the homeowner's association of The Retreat at Twin Lakes gated community, where the shooting occurred, told HuffPost that residents had made several complaints to police and the association about Zimmerman's aggressive tactics.

Squeaky clean, huh? Incompetent asses.
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Re: White guy shoots black kid cops do nothing
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2012, 03:28:02 am »
I really cant see how this could possibly be anything other than murder. I cannot for the life of me think of any kind of action that would warrant lethal force as self defense. A 17 year old kid shot in the chest, unarmed and of light build, does not pose a threat to anyone.

Chances are Zimmerman accosted the boy, whole like any normal person told him to leave him alone so he could go home, and was shot for "trying to get away" or something. Stories like this are just plain disgusting.

Personally I don't know who I am more upset about, the racist psycho who killed the kid, or the police for doing nothing to said racist psycho.

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Re: White guy shoots black kid cops do nothing
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2012, 04:38:10 am »
Here's the account of the incident
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/03/stand-your-ground-and-trayvon-martin/254444/

Whether his life was in danger, I don't know. He certainly must have been getting his ass kicked. But, he was the aggressor in the instance and should be at least taken to trial for inciting this incident
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Re: White guy shoots black kid cops do nothing
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2012, 07:00:30 am »
Here's the account of the incident
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/03/stand-your-ground-and-trayvon-martin/254444/

Whether his life was in danger, I don't know. He certainly must have been getting his ass kicked. But, he was the aggressor in the instance and should be at least taken to trial for inciting this incident
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Re: White guy shoots black kid cops do nothing
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2012, 07:45:36 am »
No witnesses, so you have to take the shooter’s word? Since when?

Witnesses are the most fucking unreliable evidence there is!
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Re: White guy shoots black kid cops do nothing
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2012, 07:51:12 am »
No witnesses, so you have to take the shooter’s word? Since when?

Witnesses are the most fucking unreliable evidence there is!
At least bring it to trial

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Re: White guy shoots black kid cops do nothing
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2012, 08:04:18 am »
No witnesses, so you have to take the shooter’s word? Since when?

Witnesses are the most fucking unreliable evidence there is!
At least bring it to trial

Here's the thing: he should be going to trial right now. Even if it truly was self-defense, it's up to the courts to say if he was guilty of murder, not the police, and the fact that he hasn't been arrested yet is very suspicious.

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Re: White guy shoots black kid cops do nothing
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2012, 08:19:58 am »
No witnesses, so you have to take the shooter’s word? Since when?

Witnesses are the most fucking unreliable evidence there is!
At least bring it to trial

Here's the thing: he should be going to trial right now. Even if it truly was self-defense, it's up to the courts to say if he was guilty of murder, not the police, and the fact that he hasn't been arrested yet is very suspicious.
Not to mention his record completely contradicts the assertion that it was a clean record

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Re: White guy shoots black kid cops do nothing
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2012, 08:37:47 am »
Here's the thing: he should be going to trial right now. Even if it truly was self-defense, it's up to the courts to say if he was guilty of murder, not the police, and the fact that he hasn't been arrested yet is very suspicious.

Yes it is.  So far the district attorney has not brought charges and they wont unless then think they can get a conviction.  With no witnesses and the fact that there was an altercation I doubt they would.   
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Re: White guy shoots black kid cops do nothing
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2012, 09:05:03 am »
Here's the thing: he should be going to trial right now. Even if it truly was self-defense, it's up to the courts to say if he was guilty of murder, not the police, and the fact that he hasn't been arrested yet is very suspicious.

Yes it is.  So far the district attorney has not brought charges and they wont unless then think they can get a conviction.  With no witnesses and the fact that there was an altercation I doubt they would.
Lets agree the cops are racist. 

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Re: White guy shoots black kid cops do nothing
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2012, 09:09:34 am »
Lets agree the cops are racist.

How so?
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Re: White guy shoots black kid cops do nothing
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2012, 09:15:58 am »
Lets agree the cops are racist.

How so?

I really hope you're not being serious.

Assuming you are, do you think for a minute that if a 28 year old black man with an arrest record shot a 140 pound white child in the chest (armed only with skittles and arizona iced tea) that the cops would let him go?

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Re: White guy shoots black kid cops do nothing
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2012, 09:38:22 am »
I really cant see how this could possibly be anything other than murder. I cannot for the life of me think of any kind of action that would warrant lethal force as self defense.

Castle Doctrine. Although the exact details of the doctrine vary from state to state, the basic idea is that there is no requirement to retreat in your "homestead." The most commonly heard example is being allowed to shoot the unarmed person who broke into your home and is robbing you.

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(1) A person is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another when using defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm to another if:

 (a) The person against whom the defensive force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or had unlawfully and forcibly entered, a dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle, . . . ; and

   (b) The person who uses defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act was occurring or had occurred.
Fla. Stat. § 776.013 (2012)

Hmm... That's a stretch. A really big stretch. Yeah, OK, too much of a stretch.

Here's the thing: he should be going to trial right now. Even if it truly was self-defense, it's up to the courts to say if he was guilty of murder, not the police, and the fact that he hasn't been arrested yet is very suspicious.

Agreed. Police only need reasonable suspicion to arrest. The only reason I can think of (other than the obvious racism) is that the police have an erroneous assumption of what the Castle Doctrine means and think this scenario fits in it. (That isn't an unreasonable assumption. As I said, the doctrine varies from state to state, and some states are very lenient. My Criminal Law professor - who practiced in Texas - said that there was a case where a guy fell under the Castle Doctrine after he chased the burglar down the block and shot the burglar at the edge of his property.)

I cannot figure out why the State Attorney's Office isn't pursuing charges. At a minimum, why not empanel a Grand Jury and let them decide.
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Re: White guy shoots black kid cops do nothing
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2012, 11:57:41 am »
with the doctrine even this is pushing t as the kid was not on his property and it was not a formal neighborhood watch