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Possible sexuality poll?
« on: January 05, 2012, 10:30:40 am »
With all the fuss about comprehensive vs. abstinence-only sex ed, I'm interested in seeing what people from a variety of backgrounds think should and should not be taught in schools.  Any suggestions on polling sites to use, and how to increase exposure so that people who AREN'T "liberal deviants" get a chance to see it?
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Re: Possible sexuality poll?
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2012, 05:28:58 pm »
I'm not sure about polling sites, but as far as the comprehensive vs. abstinence only issue, I'm in favour of comprehensive sex education.

Abstinence only will end up just repressing these kids, which will make them hornier and, by extension, completely ruin the point of their teachings.

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Re: Possible sexuality poll?
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2012, 05:33:57 pm »
Teach proper birth control.  Make birth control available in the school building itself.  Mention abstinence as an option, but don't spend more than three sentences on it.
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Re: Possible sexuality poll?
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2012, 05:45:53 pm »
Oh, I have a loooooong list of topics and the like, along with whether you think each topic should be mandatory, opt-out-able, or not discussed in schools at all.
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Re: Possible sexuality poll?
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2012, 05:54:04 pm »
Oh, I have a loooooong list of topics and the like, along with whether you think each topic should be mandatory, opt-out-able, or not discussed in schools at all.

In my opinion, no topic should fall under category "not to be discussed in schools at all", every discussion should, however, be held at their approriate forum to do so if they are brought up by teachers.  Meaning that no math teacher should use their time evangelizing and telling about the evils of premarital sex and so on.

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Re: Possible sexuality poll?
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2012, 06:06:46 pm »
Comprehensive sex education with the appropriate materials is always good.  Also provide birth control to students who request it.

Ironbite-if they're gonna have sex, they should be safe.

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Re: Possible sexuality poll?
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2012, 07:14:51 pm »
Oh, I have a loooooong list of topics and the like, along with whether you think each topic should be mandatory, opt-out-able, or not discussed in schools at all.

In my opinion, no topic should fall under category "not to be discussed in schools at all", every discussion should, however, be held at their approriate forum to do so if they are brought up by teachers.  Meaning that no math teacher should use their time evangelizing and telling about the evils of premarital sex and so on.

Well, there are also some topics listed under elementary, some under middle, some under high school, and some under all three.

For example, a parent may feel that elementary-school kids should never be taught about the mechanics of reproduction, but that middle- or high-school students are ready.
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Re: Possible sexuality poll?
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2012, 07:26:20 pm »
Oh, I have a loooooong list of topics and the like, along with whether you think each topic should be mandatory, opt-out-able, or not discussed in schools at all.

In my opinion, no topic should fall under category "not to be discussed in schools at all", every discussion should, however, be held at their approriate forum to do so if they are brought up by teachers.  Meaning that no math teacher should use their time evangelizing and telling about the evils of premarital sex and so on.

Well, there are also some topics listed under elementary, some under middle, some under high school, and some under all three.

For example, a parent may feel that elementary-school kids should never be taught about the mechanics of reproduction, but that middle- or high-school students are ready.

Well, the sooner they start telling the facts, the less there are misconseptions to be corrected later on. And I say this as a person who saw animated movie on babymaking (from removal of the clothes and going through the "make love" vocabulary, different positions (!) and conseption to the giving birth and breastfeeding part) on fifth grade as a part of our normal biology lessons, which that year were revolving around reproduction of animals, including humans and starting puberty.

If I one day find myself responsible of kids, I'd like them to have at least the same things told to them at school as I had. And the sooner the better! (As I was really embarrassed to talk to my mom about those things before I had some base knowledge of my own on the subject).

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Re: Possible sexuality poll?
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2012, 08:54:23 pm »
Clearly, we need to have kindergartners watching porn or we've let down our liberal overlords.

Seriously though, it shouldn't hurt to teach k-5 graders about relationships. At least to the extent that it's what two people do when they care about each other, and that it can be guy/girl, guy/guy, or girl/girl and there's nothing wrong with that. Basically teach that there's nothing wrong with consensual relationships of any configuration. Middle schools can explain how our bodies work in regards to reproduction, which is how I think it works already (correct me if I'm wrong). High school can deal with sexual health, including birth control & their correct use, STDs, and any other topics I'm not thinking of at the moment.
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Re: Possible sexuality poll?
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2012, 10:15:27 pm »
Clearly, we need to have kindergartners watching porn or we've let down our liberal overlords.

Seriously though, it shouldn't hurt to teach k-5 graders about relationships. At least to the extent that it's what two people do when they care about each other, and that it can be guy/girl, guy/guy, or girl/girl and there's nothing wrong with that. Basically teach that there's nothing wrong with consensual relationships of any configuration. Middle schools can explain how our bodies work in regards to reproduction, which is how I think it works already (correct me if I'm wrong). High school can deal with sexual health, including birth control & their correct use, STDs, and any other topics I'm not thinking of at the moment.

Thing is, in abstinence-only states, you get NONE OF THAT.  Not even the parts about what periods are and where babies come from.  I only know because it was in my biology textbook, and I was the kind of hopeless nerd who has to know everything in the book, even if it's not covered in class.
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Re: Possible sexuality poll?
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2012, 10:20:18 pm »
If I ever have to deal with abstinence-only/anti-gay/slut-shaming crap in a high school health class, I am going to take full advantage of the opportunity and troll the fuck out of the teacher.
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Re: Possible sexuality poll?
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2012, 10:27:00 pm »
If I ever have to deal with abstinence-only/anti-gay/slut-shaming crap in a high school health class, I am going to take full advantage of the opportunity and troll the fuck out of the teacher.

If that happens, I hope you have audio/video.
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Re: Possible sexuality poll?
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2012, 04:45:17 pm »
Educate children.
Make them aware of what sex is, and what it involves.
Inform them of the possible risks, as well as the benefits, of being sexualy active.
Let them know they have the right to refuse sex.
Make sure they fully understand that they have the right to refuse to have sex if they dont want to.
Make sure they can exercise their right to refuse to have sex.
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2012, 05:56:26 pm »
Clearly, we need to have kindergartners watching porn or we've let down our liberal overlords.

Seriously though, it shouldn't hurt to teach k-5 graders about relationships. At least to the extent that it's what two people do when they care about each other, and that it can be guy/girl, guy/guy, or girl/girl and there's nothing wrong with that. Basically teach that there's nothing wrong with consensual relationships of any configuration. Middle schools can explain how our bodies work in regards to reproduction, which is how I think it works already (correct me if I'm wrong). High school can deal with sexual health, including birth control & their correct use, STDs, and any other topics I'm not thinking of at the moment.

Thing is, in abstinence-only states, you get NONE OF THAT.  Not even the parts about what periods are and where babies come from.  I only know because it was in my biology textbook, and I was the kind of hopeless nerd who has to know everything in the book, even if it's not covered in class.
I know. I'm saying that, when this country finally gets over itself, we implement something along these lines to education kids about sexuality and sexual health. Otherwise, I have to admit that I was surprised when my school announced it was doing a sex ed class.
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Re: Possible sexuality poll?
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2012, 06:17:03 pm »
Kids should learn about sex where I did. In the gutter.
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