Worst of Social Justice

[Shane for Wax]

1) Most Sami consider themselves indigenous white Europeans, to the best of my knowledge.

2) You're trying to apply American racial dynamics to Europe, which really doesn't work. I've had my share of Americentrism on Tumblr, thank you.

3) What does cultural perception of Fins living in the US over a century ago have to do with a different (albeit related) ethnic group living in modern day Europe?

4) Who even uses the Caucasoid/Mongoloid/Negroid division anymore, other than neo-Nazis? By that classification, Arabs, Persians, and many South Asian ethnicities are considered "Caucasoid", even though they're frequently perceived as non-white many regions. Fins being classified as "Mongoloid" over a century ago hardly means anything nowadays.

In response to point 4: anthropologists do. My books had it in there. And considering they weren't old as fuck books...

That isn't to say I don't believe anthropology needs to get updated in their definitions and everything else.

I know it's sometimes used when identifying skull shapes and whatnot, but generally speaking, modern social dynamics are a bit more complex than the 3-race categorization formerly used. Which isn't to say that they haven't been influenced by it, of course.

On that I heartily agree.

[chitoryu12]

Whiteness isn't about colour, it's about social position.

I think if this was in the form of a screenshot from a random tumblr, it would be a highly appropriate quote to add to this thread.

[The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist]

Like, I get that perception of whiteness is about more than how light or dark someone is (hence dark Sicilians being considered white, while someone like Ice-T isn't), but is anyone seriously going to look at this photo and say she's not white? Even if they're aware of her ancestry?:



Did she magically become white when she became a famous actress?

And by that definition, this guy would be considered white:



(Prince Abdulaziz of KSA).

[wrightway]

I'm a little late to the party but did I seriously see where someone claimed twerking is a sacred dance?

[Jack Mann]

It is similar to several traditional African dances, and the case can probably be made that it's descended from dances still remembered generations later.

That said, the person's story about slave codes is almost certainly pure bullshit.

[Thejebusfire]

Are these the same people who believe the Irish weren't really oppressed because their oppressors were also white people?

[Askold]

Awww. I missed a discussion related to Finland. Or at least a cultural/ethnic group that some Finns belong to.

I still find it odd that Sami are considered "indigenous people" or "aboriginals" but that's just me. (Didn't my ancestors came here approximately at the same time?) I do like the fact that they have managed to keep their old culture alive this long. On the other hand, I do admit that there has been (and in some cases still is) discrimination against them, I would wish that it would be going away by now but the same racists who spew their hatred on immigrants have recently started complaining about the Sami as well. And even if I don't like the "indigenous people" to be a strange title in this case it is nowhere near as bad as the fact that some people have began to call Sami immigrants or foregneirs when there are arguments over land in Lappland...

And I would have thought that the Sami were more of a cultural group than ethnic (from the Finnish point of view at least since they are part of the same ethnic group as the majority of Finns.) but apparently some of them go by the "one drop" rule and ostracice those Sami who do not have 100% Sami ancestors... And some SJW's in Finland have jumped on this issue because it means they can complain about Finns being evil colonials.

[PosthumanHeresy]

Okay, all I can imagine is Till Lindemann going "You've got a pussy! I've got a dick! So what's the problem? Let's do it quick!"

[Canadian Mojo]

Awww. I missed a discussion related to Finland. Or at least a cultural/ethnic group that some Finns belong to.

I still find it odd that Sami are considered "indigenous people" or "aboriginals" but that's just me. (Didn't my ancestors came here approximately at the same time?) I do like the fact that they have managed to keep their old culture alive this long. On the other hand, I do admit that there has been (and in some cases still is) discrimination against them, I would wish that it would be going away by now but the same racists who spew their hatred on immigrants have recently started complaining about the Sami as well. And even if I don't like the "indigenous people" to be a strange title in this case it is nowhere near as bad as the fact that some people have began to call Sami immigrants or foregneirs when there are arguments over land in Lappland...

And I would have thought that the Sami were more of a cultural group than ethnic (from the Finnish point of view at least since they are part of the same ethnic group as the majority of Finns.) but apparently some of them go by the "one drop" rule and ostracice those Sami who do not have 100% Sami ancestors... And some SJW's in Finland have jumped on this issue because it means they can complain about Finns being evil colonials.

Given how small a group the Sami people are, there really is a danger of there being no true Sami, particularly if the ones in Finland think that they are a distinct group from the Sami living in other countries.

[Damen]

And now we're back to "coloured" instead of using "PoC" which, I'll be honest, was an abbreviation that made me think of a plague long before it made me think of non-white people.



You know, I can't think of anything to say that wasn't said by WTFSocialJustice.

Wow there’s so many things wrong with this:

• So, is it ok to start calling people colored now? Please give out an official memo on this so we can end the confusion.
• "Colored girls" are the same everywhere. When my white ex broke up with me, it was an act of racist imperialism. Or something. And at this rate, I figure I’ll never find a relationship in the rest of my life.
• It’s never ok to force people into a relationship or sex. Unless it’s a white guy. Then he has to stay with you or he’s racist.
• If white guys are so racist, why do “colored girls" still want to date them?
• Breaking up with someone is just the worst thing you can do to them. It’s not like people are ever incompatible or anything.

[The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist]

Judging by the "ou" spelling in "coloured", it's possible that she's from a region where the term is still acceptable.

[Askold]

Given how small a group the Sami people are, there really is a danger of there being no true Sami, particularly if the ones in Finland think that they are a distinct group from the Sami living in other countries.

Clarification: They don't consider themselves separate from other Sami. It is just that some of them are apparently against anyone who has parents/ancestors other than 100% Sami. Which, in my opinion is still odd because what separates them from the average Finn is tradition and Sami-identity rather than ethnicity/dna.

[The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist]

I dunno, pretty much every ethnic group has its purists, almost always without any scientific backing to go along with their ideology. I would be surprised if the Sami didn't have a few amongst them who felt that way.

[The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist]

Pfft, mongrels are better anyway. Mongrel power!

[Osama bin Bambi]

Pfft, mongrels are better anyway. Mongrel power!

Hybrid vigor is a good thing.