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Offline KZN02

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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #195 on: September 12, 2013, 01:39:34 am »
Had this discussion with a right-leaning friend.

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Me: Anyone think the Obama's wanting to take action may be a bluff? I'm suddenly reminded of Star Wars.

Friend: It clearly is a bluff, Obama doesn't have the balls to just go and do it. He also tried to force this, and because of that, set us up for a lose-lose situation. If it were Bush, Clinton, etc, we'd have been in there and raised all hell.

However now, it gets more complex, mainly cause we have like, only France in support. Obama's threat to go to war, to invade, and to remove the weapons are seemingly more and more intangible. Now here is Syria thinking "Hey, these guys aren't going to war, they're just blowing smoke". Every one of these hesitations make oppressors more confident, Hitler's aggressive before WW2 ringing a bell?

It's now a double edged sword. Go to war: be labeled as a war monger (much like how Obama portrayed Bush), lose lives, raise taxes, increase spending, continue to confuse Middle East relations. Don't go to war: Be labeled as an indecisive leader, show a weak resolve, promote future aggresion through appeasement.

So here we are, with a UN that is about as useful as a water-gun (Gee, thanks everyone!), Putin preventing war (Or at least stalling for Syria) to serve his own initiative, and Obama posing like some tough-guy president.

The only winners are the oppressors now. Syria, North Korea, etc. are starting to get used to these idle threats. I mean seriously, now we're getting news that NK is restarting their plutonium nuclear factory for bombs already.

Funny how this is eerily reminiscent of the prelude to WW2. League of Nations, USSR, economical turmoil seem to be checked. All that we're missing is something like pre-WW2 Japan and Germany.

Yippee

Nope, still stupid.
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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #196 on: September 12, 2013, 02:04:50 am »
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Friend: It clearly is a bluff, Obama doesn't have the balls to just go and do it.

This is false. Obama bombed Libya. Obama would bomb Syria. Congress/the international community may not let him, and shouldn't.

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However now, it gets more complex, mainly cause we have like, only France in support.

Probably Canada; Australia would help a bro out if you asked.

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Now here is Syria thinking "Hey, these guys aren't going to war, they're just blowing smoke". Every one of these hesitations make oppressors more confident, Hitler's aggressive before WW2 ringing a bell?

Fred's law: anyone who makes a reference to Nuremburg when advocating a bellicose foreign policy against some small, relatively unarmed state is a moron.

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So here we are, with a UN that is about as useful as a water-gun

Saved only a couple of thousand lives.

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Funny how this is eerily reminiscent of the prelude to WW2. League of Nations, USSR, economical turmoil seem to be checked. All that we're missing is something like pre-WW2 Japan and Germany.

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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #197 on: September 12, 2013, 02:18:17 am »
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However now, it gets more complex, mainly cause we have like, only France in support.

Probably Canada; Australia would help a bro out if you asked.
Please don't give them any ideas. We're going to have more than enough of our own bullshit to deal with in the next four years without America dragging us into foreign scuffles.

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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #198 on: September 12, 2013, 08:12:54 am »
Ok, so Glenn Beck is against the war, "because it's progressive."

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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #199 on: September 12, 2013, 08:38:37 am »
Hold on, what? Did Glenn Beck finally jump the shark?

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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #200 on: September 12, 2013, 09:06:51 am »
He jumped the shark awhile ago.  He's back for a second run now.