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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #90 on: September 01, 2013, 05:14:05 pm »
Nowhere near 1.2 million  ::)
Over time, yes. Because over time, with all the people being killed by persecution and Saddam, it would easily hit 1.2 million.

That's 1.2 million excess deaths. Meaning, all the people who would have died of persecution or starvation under Saddam, plus 1.2 million.
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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #91 on: September 01, 2013, 05:28:19 pm »
*glances over the thread*

Anyone else having flashbacks to 2002? Yeah I guess not. Anyway, let's invade! What could possibly go wrong?

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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #92 on: September 01, 2013, 11:15:26 pm »
Meh, try Assad for crimes against humanity in the world court, and when he's found guilty, just put up a totally amazing, awe inspiring one billion dollar bounty on his head. He'll be gone in a week. Much cheaper, less collateral damage. I'm sort of not even kidding. Wishful thinking, though. Heck, one of the wealthier Arab League reps would probably volunteer the entire billion bucks, himself. Assad is not respected in the ME, at all.

I'm so sick of endless war. It's a surgical missile strike that they have in mind, but that is a gateway drug to more and more abuse of civvies and NATO soldiers.

Back to the numbers game speculation thing...Saddam Hussein was in fact in process of going down the primrose genocide path by attacks, including chemical, on Kurdish towns throughout the north, and systematically destroying the wetlands that the marsh Arabs lived in for thousands of years. He and his fucking boys needed to go, but I definitely wish it had been a bounty head hunter offer there too, instead of ten years of invader occupation warfare. Halliburton and Blackwater sure enjoyed it, though.
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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #93 on: September 02, 2013, 01:42:58 am »
*glances over the thread*

Anyone else having flashbacks to 2002? Yeah I guess not. Anyway, let's invade! What could possibly go wrong?

For the last time...

WE ARE NOT INVADING SYRIA!

No one has said ONE WORD about sending troops in. We are talking about missiles and airstrikes. Nothing more. Just like Libya.
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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #94 on: September 02, 2013, 01:49:07 am »
I can't believe I haven't freaked out when our nation had agreed to launch missiles and airstrikes to Syria. I did last year in response to the threats from Mitt Romney in response to the killing of American diplomats in response to The Innocence of Muslims.

(I can't remember all the things said there then, so forgive me.)

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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #95 on: September 02, 2013, 12:10:48 pm »
*glances over the thread*

Anyone else having flashbacks to 2002? Yeah I guess not. Anyway, let's invade! What could possibly go wrong?

For the last time...

WE ARE NOT INVADING SYRIA!

No one has said ONE WORD about sending troops in. We are talking about missiles and airstrikes. Nothing more. Just like Libya.
My mistake. Let's go with the slightly less stupid plan. Apologies all around.

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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #96 on: September 02, 2013, 01:49:01 pm »
*glances over the thread*

Anyone else having flashbacks to 2002? Yeah I guess not. Anyway, let's invade! What could possibly go wrong?

For the last time...

WE ARE NOT INVADING SYRIA!

No one has said ONE WORD about sending troops in. We are talking about missiles and airstrikes. Nothing more. Just like Libya.
My mistake. Let's go with the slightly less stupid plan. Apologies all around.

Thank you. Apology accepted. I was just getting tired of people saying that we were going to invade, or that it would inevitably lead to invasion. We didn't end up invading Libya, did we?
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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #97 on: September 02, 2013, 05:52:54 pm »
*glances over the thread*

Anyone else having flashbacks to 2002? Yeah I guess not. Anyway, let's invade! What could possibly go wrong?

For the last time...

WE ARE NOT INVADING SYRIA!

No one has said ONE WORD about sending troops in. We are talking about missiles and airstrikes. Nothing more. Just like Libya.
My mistake. Let's go with the slightly less stupid plan. Apologies all around.

Thank you. Apology accepted. I was just getting tired of people saying that we were going to invade, or that it would inevitably lead to invasion. We didn't end up invading Libya, did we?
No, we merely bombed the living hell outta them, which is precisely what we'll do here if the position of U.S. warships is any indication. Obama learned some things from Bush, namely that one needn't use "boots on the ground" to destroy a nation.

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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #98 on: September 02, 2013, 07:06:23 pm »
*glances over the thread*

Anyone else having flashbacks to 2002? Yeah I guess not. Anyway, let's invade! What could possibly go wrong?

For the last time...

WE ARE NOT INVADING SYRIA!

No one has said ONE WORD about sending troops in. We are talking about missiles and airstrikes. Nothing more. Just like Libya.
My mistake. Let's go with the slightly less stupid plan. Apologies all around.

Thank you. Apology accepted. I was just getting tired of people saying that we were going to invade, or that it would inevitably lead to invasion. We didn't end up invading Libya, did we?

First time a pilot goes down- and a whole bunch of them are, by the way; the Syrians really know how to do goddamn air defence- the US sends in a helicopter with a bunch of ninjas aboard to pick him up. Then one of them gets shot down. You now have boots on the ground.
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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #99 on: September 02, 2013, 07:15:10 pm »
Actually, from what I've heard, we're mostly going with missiles, probably due to the aforementioned Syrian AA. And there's always the Israeli option.
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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #100 on: September 02, 2013, 07:32:29 pm »
Yeah they're talking guided or self guiding cruise missiles, which would launch from a ship, hundreds of miles off from the target. Tomahawks are huge missiles. Collateral damage is unavoidable. Innocents will die. 'Swhy I was only half kidding about putting out a one billion dollar "wanted dead" poster on Assad's head. The idea being that local Syrian snipers would try it, a billion bucks being more than enough to tempt even Assad's own praetorian guard.
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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #101 on: September 02, 2013, 07:48:27 pm »
Actually, from what I've heard, we're mostly going with missiles, probably due to the aforementioned Syrian AA. And there's always the Israeli option.

If it's a no-fly zone they're after, they're flying jets. If they're only launching missiles, that would be a fairly puny punitive strike. Short-term, too.

I would assume that it's likely to go like this:

H-hour: every airport in the country is blown to pieces by a tomahawk. Every known flak, radar or heat-seeking AAA gets a tomahawk. Following close on is a wave of 150-200 SEAD jets (including support aircraft and such). Everything still emitting radiation gets a HARM, then a JDAM.

H-hour +1: some left-over jets drop the occasional bomb right on ole Bashar's head. They miss a bunch of times. Eventually they don't miss.

H-Hour +2: Rebels ring up the US, "we have some armour kicking our arse at XYZ". XYZ explodes.

H-Hour +3: a radar anywhere in Syria turns on. It is instantly blown to pieces (HARM, JDAM).

Rinse, repeat.
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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #102 on: September 02, 2013, 08:05:57 pm »
Actually, from what I've heard, we're mostly going with missiles, probably due to the aforementioned Syrian AA. And there's always the Israeli option.

If it's a no-fly zone they're after, they're flying jets. If they're only launching missiles, that would be a fairly puny punitive strike. Short-term, too.

I would assume that it's likely to go like this:

H-hour: every airport in the country is blown to pieces by a tomahawk. Every known flak, radar or heat-seeking AAA gets a tomahawk. Following close on is a wave of 150-200 SEAD jets (including support aircraft and such). Everything still emitting radiation gets a HARM, then a JDAM.

H-hour +1: some left-over jets drop the occasional bomb right on ole Bashar's head. They miss a bunch of times. Eventually they don't miss.

H-Hour +2: Rebels ring up the US, "we have some armour kicking our arse at XYZ". XYZ explodes.

H-Hour +3: a radar anywhere in Syria turns on. It is instantly blown to pieces (HARM, JDAM).

Rinse, repeat.
At some point in there, Russia and Iran make good on their threats to retaliate. America (and Israeli) forces defend themselves. International shitstorm ensues.

Hello WWIII.
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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #103 on: September 02, 2013, 08:14:49 pm »
Nonsense. No Russian leader, least of all Putin, is going to commit suicide over an irrelevant naval base. For Iran it's a bigger deal: Syria is their only friend in the world, and it's about to get bombed flat. But think about WHY Iran is friends with Syria (and Hezbollah). It's deterrence. They're afraid of potential US invasion of their country, and rightly so- the US has been highly belligerent towards Iran. Now, why would you make certain the outcome you want to avoid in order to defend the tools you want to use to avoid it?
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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #104 on: September 02, 2013, 08:37:12 pm »
So I guess we've exchanged white man's burden for first world man's burden.



Have any of you asked yourselves why the U.S. tipped its hand so blatantly and so early? I mean now Assad is just going to scatter and hide all his high value military targets in deep dark little holes in out of the way places instead of on the front lines where they are easy to hit...


...oh, wait.  ::)



Nonsense. No Russian leader, least of all Putin, is going to commit suicide over an irrelevant naval base.

I take it you feel that Obama is somewhat less sane and is willing to commit suicide over a bunch of foreign nationals being killed in a civil war half a world away. If Russia and America start swinging at each other there is no guarantee who would be left standing.