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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #135 on: September 05, 2013, 07:18:41 pm »
It's Fox News, is honestly the only thing one has to say.

Just like 'it was the 80s.'

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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #136 on: September 05, 2013, 08:39:03 pm »
It looks like Liz Cheney, the most ardently pro-war pundit in the media, is against the Syria strike. As are staunch Iraq War supporters Rick Santorum and Paul Broun. On the other hand, Iraq War opponents John Kerry and Nancy Pelosi are now beating the drums for war.

I'll bet these are principled conversions, and not purely self-serving flip-flops for political and partisan gain.

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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #137 on: September 05, 2013, 08:54:27 pm »
Before, I was on the fence.  Now I'm saying that I'm against getting involved in this war.

That being said, Obama asking Congress for permission could be him passing the buck.  But I'm not optimistic enough to say that with any certainty.
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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #138 on: September 05, 2013, 10:03:08 pm »
It looks like Liz Cheney, the most ardently pro-war pundit in the media, is against the Syria strike. As are staunch Iraq War supporters Rick Santorum and Paul Broun. On the other hand, Iraq War opponents John Kerry and Nancy Pelosi are now beating the drums for war.

I'll bet these are principled conversions, and not purely self-serving flip-flops for political and partisan gain.
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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #139 on: September 05, 2013, 10:32:16 pm »
I'm pretty much against having another war, we just had two that put us in the hole. Let others deal with Syria for once.
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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #140 on: September 06, 2013, 03:58:59 am »
I just found out that a year and a half ago, Rick Santorum was for a full military intervention in Syria. not just a bombing, a full invasion.

I think I know the reason why so many House Republicans who would almost certainly support the bombing of Syria if a Republican President was calling for it are voting against it. It's a Batman Gambit to get Obama impeached. If Obama bombs Syria anyway after Congress votes no (and since he bombed Libya two years ago without even asking Congress for authorization, this is a very likely possibility), they will be able to impeach Obama for violating the War Powers Act and overstepping his Constitutional Boundries.

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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #141 on: September 06, 2013, 06:36:23 am »
WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG SO WRONG!

The War Powers Act only applies if this is an actual war.  Otherwise, Obama has 90 days to play with his bombs before getting the fuck out.  As Obama is also the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, he can do whatever the fuck he wants with the military.  As long as he's out of Syria by the 90th day of the first bomb being thrown that is.

Ironbite-this is a Batman Gambit on Obama's part to get the GOP to do something.

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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #142 on: September 06, 2013, 07:02:24 am »
Or this is Obama passing responsibility for this to the GOP.  Whatever they decide is on them.
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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #143 on: September 06, 2013, 09:54:49 am »
Or this is Obama passing responsibility for this to the GOP.  Whatever they decide is on them.
Admittedly, I like him (sort of) setting the precedence that even with the power at his disposal he will ask the people for permission before letting shit fly. Realistically, having 90 days of free reign over military action will force the U.S. into a war if that is any president's intention. On the downside, this endless public debate gives the enemy a lot of time to prepare their defences which really sucks if you are one of the pawns that is going to be used to breach them.

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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #144 on: September 06, 2013, 10:52:57 am »
Or this is Obama passing responsibility for this to the GOP.  Whatever they decide is on them.
Admittedly, I like him (sort of) setting the precedence that even with the power at his disposal he will ask the people for permission before letting shit fly. Realistically, having 90 days of free reign over military action will force the U.S. into a war if that is any president's intention. On the downside, this endless public debate gives the enemy a lot of time to prepare their defences which really sucks if you are one of the pawns that is going to be used to breach them.

Most of those pawns are Tomahawk missiles.
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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #145 on: September 06, 2013, 01:23:20 pm »
Or this is Obama passing responsibility for this to the GOP.  Whatever they decide is on them.
Admittedly, I like him (sort of) setting the precedence that even with the power at his disposal he will ask the people for permission before letting shit fly. Realistically, having 90 days of free reign over military action will force the U.S. into a war if that is any president's intention. On the downside, this endless public debate gives the enemy a lot of time to prepare their defences which really sucks if you are one of the pawns that is going to be used to breach them.

Most of those pawns are Tomahawk missiles.

For now. Hopefully it stays that way.

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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #146 on: September 06, 2013, 02:20:24 pm »
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Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) on Sunday portrayed the current conflict in Syria as one between the government of President Bashar Al Assad, who Paul said "has protected Christians for a number of decades," and "Islamic rebels," who Paul said "have been attacking Christians" and are aligned with Al Qaeda.

"I think the Islamic rebels winning is a bad idea for the Christians, and all of a sudden we'll have another Islamic state where Christians are persecuted," Paul said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/01/rand-paul-syria_n_3852644.html
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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #147 on: September 06, 2013, 02:55:30 pm »
YAY!  Its another idiot who doesn't know what the fuck is going on.

Ironbite-WHO KEEPS ELECTING THESE FUCKING MORONS!?

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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #148 on: September 06, 2013, 02:58:56 pm »
YAY!  Its another idiot who doesn't know what the fuck is going on.

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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #149 on: September 06, 2013, 06:15:46 pm »
Dumb Americans, we're full of 'em.
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