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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #165 on: September 10, 2013, 03:27:55 am »
It got real conspiracy theory in here.

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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #166 on: September 10, 2013, 03:34:03 am »
No doubt the Republicans have tied in Obamacare in that.
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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #167 on: September 10, 2013, 11:45:15 am »
republicans are voting no in house and dems vote yes damn

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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #168 on: September 10, 2013, 02:33:22 pm »
Doesn't matter.  Syria is now opening up to talks with the UN about getting rid of the chemical weapons.

Ironbite-someone told them that no matter where they hide the damn things, the US will blow them up.

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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #169 on: September 10, 2013, 02:40:02 pm »
Does anyone think this Syria debacle is another distraction from the NSA issue?

Only if the entire civilized world is obsessed over the NSA and Snowden, etc., not really. The issues are only tangentially related.

The offer of the day from Russia sounds nice on paper (NATO supervised removal of Syrian chem weapon supplies to be handed over to Russia, and from there to be destroyed under NATO supervision, allegedly), but it gives too much time for Assad to hide a few canister warheads, and who the fuck trusts Putin, anyway.

If Assad really ceases to use chem weapons ever again, fine as to that, but he still needs to be under the gun for having already massacred innocents.
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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #170 on: September 10, 2013, 02:59:57 pm »
republicans are voting no in house and dems vote yes damn

I think that fact alone says a lot about partisanship and the how strong the ridiculous concept of "party loyalty" is among our leaders.

The NSA data-mining program thing is a case in point:

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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #171 on: September 10, 2013, 03:56:53 pm »
Doesn't matter.  Syria is now opening up to talks with the UN about getting rid of the chemical weapons.

Ironbite-someone told them that no matter where they hide the damn things, the US will blow them up.

I wonder if that was Obama's plan all along.  Scared the living **** out of Syria while we argue about whether to bomb another country (again).  Then they agree to hand everything over, and we never fired a shot.

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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #172 on: September 10, 2013, 04:09:43 pm »
Doesn't matter.  Syria is now opening up to talks with the UN about getting rid of the chemical weapons.

Ironbite-someone told them that no matter where they hide the damn things, the US will blow them up.

I wonder if that was Obama's plan all along.  Scared the living **** out of Syria while we argue about whether to bomb another country (again).  Then they agree to hand everything over, and we never fired a shot.

If it's true, awesome Batmat Gambit!
Actually, I think it was Russia's plan. Syria uses chemical weapons, Russia keeps us away for it bit, "enters talks", and "convinces them to give them up". Russia looks like the big damn heroes, and America looks evil.
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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #173 on: September 10, 2013, 05:48:33 pm »
Doesn't matter.  Syria is now opening up to talks with the UN about getting rid of the chemical weapons.

Ironbite-someone told them that no matter where they hide the damn things, the US will blow them up.

I wonder if that was Obama's plan all along.  Scared the living **** out of Syria while we argue about whether to bomb another country (again).  Then they agree to hand everything over, and we never fired a shot.

If it's true, awesome Batmat Gambit!
Actually, I think it was Russia's plan. Syria uses chemical weapons, Russia keeps us away for it bit, "enters talks", and "convinces them to give them up". Russia looks like the big damn heroes, and America looks evil.

Considering that Russia has been locking up political dissidents and gays, Vladimir Putin would have to be a super-intelligent chess master in order to make Russia look like the hero right now.

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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #174 on: September 10, 2013, 09:52:32 pm »
America won't look any more or less evil over one more instance of playing World Police.
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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #175 on: September 10, 2013, 09:56:43 pm »
Doesn't matter.  Syria is now opening up to talks with the UN about getting rid of the chemical weapons.

Ironbite-someone told them that no matter where they hide the damn things, the US will blow them up.

I wonder if that was Obama's plan all along.  Scared the living **** out of Syria while we argue about whether to bomb another country (again).  Then they agree to hand everything over, and we never fired a shot.

If it's true, awesome Batmat Gambit!
Actually, I think it was Russia's plan. Syria uses chemical weapons, Russia keeps us away for it bit, "enters talks", and "convinces them to give them up". Russia looks like the big damn heroes, and America looks evil.

Considering that Russia has been locking up political dissidents and gays, Vladimir Putin would have to be a super-intelligent chess master in order to make Russia look like the hero right now.
He used to lead the KGB, and took over Russia in what I doubt will be a presidency shorter than his lifespan. He is pretty much that intelligent.

America won't look any more or less evil over one more instance of playing World Police.
Okay, maybe not evil. Still looks like douchey morons.
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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #176 on: September 11, 2013, 04:34:09 am »
It reminded me of a scene from Princess Bride.

Obama:  "Hand over your chemical weapons."
Syria:  "We don't have any chemical weapons."
Russia:  "Mess with them and you mess with us."
Obama:  "Congress, take a vote, though technically, I can bomb the **** out of them for a couple of months before you even decide."
Russia:  "Just give them the ******* weapons!"
Syria:  "Oh, you mean These chemical weapons."
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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #177 on: September 11, 2013, 04:37:21 am »
And now Putin is using the fact that Syria gave in to push USA, by making Obama agreeing not to use force be a requirement to continue the negotiations.

Putin is smart.
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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #178 on: September 11, 2013, 08:45:48 am »
Putin's an idiot if he thinks the US will listen to him.

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Re: Fun times in Syria
« Reply #179 on: September 11, 2013, 12:26:13 pm »
Or maybe the whole thing has been a cooperative international pressure tactic against Assad from the beginning, with diplomatic strategists figuring he's an unsophisticated clod who can be guided into being trapped in a corner, since there is enough proof to condemn him anyway. Obama's role is the "bad cop", Putin is the "good cop", NATO plays the role of mommy, and Assad finally cries "uncle".
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