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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2014, 04:31:17 pm »
Quote from: kefkaownsall on January 09, 2014, 06:58:00 pm
Besides in between animated movies Disney thought it would be a good idea to give the native american role toDepp

Not only that but they painted his face to make him look like a racist stereotype.
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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2014, 05:48:00 pm »
Yeah.  With Lone Ranger the film flopped and yeah they made Brother Bear but you know they have so little merch for that one its been forgotten
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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2014, 08:19:11 pm »
Quote from: TheL on January 11, 2014, 11:42:02 am
It's not about racism per se; it's about the fact that very few Disney films star POC.  When kids have over 100 films to choose from, and only 12 of them star people who aren't white, it can feel like "I'm not normal because I don't look like those people."

I had that same feeling with Barbie as a kid.  I felt like my brown hair and eyes were "ugly" because they didn't look ike my dolls.

This is more of the primary concern. To me the problem is that Disney (perhaps unwittingly) thinks that a character of color cannot find sympathy among American audience, despite the fact that America's demographic is shifting away from the WASP arch-type. I'm fine with the lead in Frozen being white, but you could add some color too.

To their credit, I think Disney tried to do that with The Princess and the Frog, but unfortunately it was in a medium that isn't copping well with the 3D fad.
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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2014, 09:17:51 pm »
I wonder if Disney is really worried since having a whtie guy play a native american did wonders for Lone Ranger's opening weekend in that it had an awful one
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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2014, 09:34:08 pm »
I totally forgot that they produced Lone Ranger. The one criticism of Disney that I do find unfounded is where folks say that they put too much sexism in Han Chinese culture in Mulan. While it's true that there are inaccuracies in the portrayal of sexism at the time period, there was sexism and the sexism is document in history. Ironically, it was the "Huns" (actually the Xiongnu) who were more sex equal.
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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2014, 10:06:22 pm »
Quote from: thejebusfire on January 11, 2014, 04:31:17 pm
Quote from: kefkaownsall on January 09, 2014, 06:58:00 pm
Besides in between animated movies Disney thought it would be a good idea to give the native american role toDepp

Not only that but they painted his face to make him look like a racist stereotype.

As I recall, the costume was based off a painting done by a guy who had never actually seen any Natives in real life.
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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2014, 10:07:10 pm »
I did wonder why they called them the Huns they were more focused on being dead by the time of Mulan
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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2014, 10:09:47 pm »
Quote from: kefkaownsall on January 11, 2014, 10:07:10 pm
I did wonder why they called them the Huns they were more focused on being dead by the time of Mulan
Maybe it's because "Xiongnu" doesn't have the same ring to it.
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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2014, 10:18:01 pm »
Let's get down to business to defeat the Xiongnu
Did they send me daughters when I asked for...

I got nothin'.

But seriously, I do think Disney needs more diversity.
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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #39 on: January 11, 2014, 10:20:24 pm »
Quote from: Magus Silveresti on January 11, 2014, 10:18:01 pm
Let's get down to business to defeat the Xiongnu
Did they send me daughters when I asked for...

I got nothin'.

But seriously, I do think Disney needs more diversity.
You're probably right.  However, I think the way to go about it is to adapt folktales from different parts of the world.  I'd like to see a Disney movie set in West Africa, or India, or New Zealand (before it was discovered by Europeans).
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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2014, 01:20:52 am »
I think they are doing a Polynesian movie
I personally want to redeem for mulan II and have a pro arranged marriage movie in Inida
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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #41 on: January 12, 2014, 07:31:00 am »
Quote from: kefkaownsall on January 12, 2014, 01:20:52 am
have a pro arranged marriage movie in Inida

Why?
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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #42 on: January 12, 2014, 10:11:34 am »
Mulan II had an anti movie and it was awful and most people in India are quite happy so maybe they could pull it off?
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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #43 on: January 12, 2014, 10:20:38 am »
Quote from: kefkaownsall on January 12, 2014, 10:11:34 am
Mulan II had an anti movie and it was awful and most people in India are quite happy so maybe they could pull it off?
...It's a straight to DVD Disney sequel. Of course it's going to be shite.

Not to mention, the idea that someone else has the right to decide who you marry is infinitely more repugnant than anything in any existing Disney movie. It makes the usual damsel in distress of the original Disney films seem outright progressive in comparison.
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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #44 on: January 12, 2014, 11:13:25 am »
no i mean modern india
most of the time they meet and liek each other
I dunno maybe im talking out my ass
forget i said anything
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