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Re: Good artists, bad people
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2014, 09:03:30 pm »
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Re: Good artists, bad people
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2014, 10:52:30 pm »
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Re: Good artists, bad people
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2014, 11:09:09 pm »
Adolph Hitler was among the first to come to my mind.  I like a lot of his art.  It was dismissed in his time as being mediocre, but he did have an eye for detail and texture in a lot of his stuff.  I can relate because I strive for the same in the pictures I draw.  All he needed was some encouragement and honing and people could have been praising him today as a great artist instead of condemning him as the megalomaniacal madman he became.  I really wonder if that would have made any difference, though.  I don't know... that's a topic for a different thread entirely.

Anyway, it's weird how things work out the way they do, as well as extremely sad at times. 

...Unless the term "artists" only meant musical artists.  If so, forget I said anything here.
There is a novel about that very thing, exploring the two lives of Adolf Hitler (the one he actually lived, and the one he could have lived had he been accepted in the Art School that rejected him before WWI). It's called La Part de L'Autre by french autor Eric-Emmanuel Schmitt. It's incredibly poignant and well written. I wonder if it was ever translated in english though.

Edit : apparently not. Though it was translated in german.

That's a pity.  I don't know enough German or French for the book to make much sense more than likely.  I've always been a fan of those what-if scenarios. 

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Re: Good artists, bad people
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2014, 11:16:52 pm »
Ayn Rand was quite the jackhole, but I still enjoyed Anthem. It's a nice little story if you don't read much into the politics.

On a similar note, I loved Terry Goodkind's "Wizard's First Rule." A shame about the rest of the Sword of Truth.
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Re: Good artists, bad people
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2014, 11:44:20 pm »
So am I the only one who thinks that David Dee's work looks like it came straight out of a Cracked photoplasty?
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Re: Good artists, bad people
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2014, 12:25:16 am »
Dave Mustaine is the first one to come to mind. He's a talented guitarist, but he's also a homophobic fundie, a conspiracy theorist, and quite possibly a racist.
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Re: Good artists, bad people
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2014, 01:21:45 am »
What no Woody Allen yet?

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Re: Good artists, bad people
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2014, 01:22:58 am »
Roman Polanski comes to mind...
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Re: Good artists, bad people
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2014, 02:43:25 am »
^ Yes.  That's a good example indeed.

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Re: Good artists, bad people
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2014, 06:21:26 am »
Adolf Hitler was among the first to come to my mind.  I like a lot of his art.  It was dismissed in his time as being mediocre, but he did have an eye for detail and texture in a lot of his stuff.  I can relate because I strive for the same in the pictures I draw.  All he needed was some encouragement and honing and people could have been praising him today as a great artist instead of condemning him as the megalomaniacal madman he became.  I really wonder if that would have made any difference, though.  I don't know... that's a topic for a different thread entirely.

Anyway, it's weird how things work out the way they do, as well as extremely sad at times. 

...Unless the term "artists" only meant musical artists.  If so, forget I said anything here.
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Re: Good artists, bad people
« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2014, 09:44:31 am »
I don't know.  It wasn't used as leverage or an insult in a debate or flamewar.   I'm verging on not, but if it is, oh well. :p

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Re: Good artists, bad people
« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2014, 02:02:11 pm »
Ted Nugent is actually a pretty good guitarist and has written some good songs.
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Re: Good artists, bad people
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2014, 05:11:20 pm »
Hitler had potential as a painter and was a surprisingly good architect, but he was a terrible writer.  Mein Kampf is unbelievably boring and confusing.

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Re: Good artists, bad people
« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2014, 06:10:01 pm »
And yet millions of Germans read it, agreed with it, and marched to his tune because of it.

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Re: Good artists, bad people
« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2014, 10:09:18 am »
Sean Connery has advocated wife beating/slapping in an interview.

Still an amazing actor but it does not excuse that opinion.
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