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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #6720 on: June 12, 2019, 07:16:59 pm »
Gee. I'm sure you aren't trying to imply anything with this completely natural addition to the conversation.

(Yes, Nation of Islam are a cult with right wing, ethnonationalist garbage of an ideology. Luckily they just have no real institutional power so they are mainly a convenient distraction for "centrist" whataboutists.)

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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #6721 on: June 12, 2019, 08:18:54 pm »
Gee. I'm sure you aren't trying to imply anything with this completely natural addition to the conversation.

(Yes, Nation of Islam are a cult with right wing, ethnonationalist garbage of an ideology. Luckily they just have no real institutional power so they are mainly a convenient distraction for "centrist" whataboutists.)

You trying to get a rise out of me?

That's a direct question, by the way.
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #6722 on: June 12, 2019, 09:10:36 pm »
I merely pointed out that when it comes to discussing the threat from ethnonationalism NoI's main significance is as a distraction from the more powerful factions. I don't really care how you feel, my purpose was make this point for the benefit of anyone who might read this conversation and might not be aware of this.

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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #6723 on: June 12, 2019, 09:27:44 pm »
I merely pointed out that when it comes to discussing the threat from ethnonationalism NoI's main significance is as a distraction from the more powerful factions. I don't really care how you feel, my purpose was make this point for the benefit of anyone who might read this conversation and might not be aware of this.

Even if we accept your premise as true, this was back in the 1960s. IIRC, the NoI was considerably more powerful then than it is today.
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #6724 on: June 12, 2019, 10:13:58 pm »
We are not living in the '60s anymore. I'm interested in their significance when discussing the current and very real danger from the far right. When a "centrist" obsessed with horseshoe theory brings them up it is usually as a well-meaning but unintentional distraction, when a conservative or a crypto-nazi does this it's an intentional one.

Sure, if it was a someone with a different forum history I would give them the benefit of a doubt that this is just an interesting historical incident they remembered. When it is someone with a history of making howaboutist implications to preach to us, I see no reason for it. Even if I'm wrong I'm still making a useful point about what to watch out and since I don't care about how you feel there is no negative here for me.

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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #6725 on: June 12, 2019, 11:04:39 pm »
We are not living in the '60s anymore. I'm interested in their significance when discussing the current and very real danger from the far right. When a "centrist" obsessed with horseshoe theory brings them up it is usually as a well-meaning but unintentional distraction, when a conservative or a crypto-nazi does this it's an intentional one.

Sure, if it was a someone with a different forum history I would give them the benefit of a doubt that this is just an interesting historical incident they remembered. When it is someone with a history of making howaboutist implications to preach to us, I see no reason for it. Even if I'm wrong I'm still making a useful point about what to watch out and since I don't care about how you feel there is no negative here for me.

So you admit you're OK with assuming bad faith and you don't care about how I feel. Well, at least you're honest, I guess.

But I'm not gonna just lie down and take your accusations. Show me that "history of making howaboutist implications".
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #6726 on: June 12, 2019, 11:07:18 pm »
But if he doesn't care how you feel, why the fuck would he bother?

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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #6727 on: June 12, 2019, 11:15:48 pm »
But if he doesn't care how you feel, why the fuck would he bother?

Because if he doesn't, it'll be clear he's just blowing hot air.
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #6728 on: June 12, 2019, 11:17:52 pm »
But if he doesn't care how you feel, why the fuck would he bother?

This. As someone who is generally empathetic to a fault it is actually liberating to be able to not give a fuck about someone's feelings for once.

Edit: and if someone whose opinion I actually care about wants to confront me I might be bothered to dig up some of his previous incarnations' posts to show what I mean.
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #6729 on: June 12, 2019, 11:30:24 pm »
But if he doesn't care how you feel, why the fuck would he bother?

Because if he doesn't, it'll be clear he's just blowing hot air.

That's a non-sequitur cracker.

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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #6730 on: June 14, 2019, 07:55:55 am »
Oh, look, Chaos spouting an opinion of his with hurt feelings...

Don’t care.
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #6731 on: June 15, 2019, 07:56:26 am »
But guize, there's a miniscule number of domestic Islamic extremists on this chart, a fraction of those could be NoI.



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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #6732 on: June 15, 2019, 02:10:04 pm »
Whiny Whatabout Centrist: BIAS! BIAS! BIAS! BIAS! WAAH THE POOR POOR NAZIS!!
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #6733 on: June 15, 2019, 02:44:18 pm »
Whiny Whatabout Centrist: BIAS! BIAS! BIAS! BIAS! WAAH THE POOR POOR NAZIS!!

Also, did you know the Nazis were National Socialists? So that's really all left-wing terrorism.
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #6734 on: June 16, 2019, 08:34:54 pm »
not sure what chaos or any others here are getting ruffled about. all this ethnonationalist shit is the same thing, we're lucky so many of them are stupid and in-fight over whos "actually superior" based on whichever pseudoscientific theory each on possesses. It's all far-right shit.