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Fred Phelps is apparently near death
« on: March 16, 2014, 06:30:03 am »
Apologies if this has been posted already, but I didn't see it anywhere.  I also apologize if this is the wrong place.  Anyway! here is the best article I could find: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/03/15/fred-phelps-founder-of-the-god-hates-fags-westboro-baptist-church-is-on-the-edge-of-death/    It seems everyone is jumping on this story, and I thought you guys would be interested in discussing it as much as anyone.  My personal thoughts on this are varied and kind of jumbled right now, and the thing that interests me most is that he was apparently excommunicated?  I'm really disappointed that the only people who know exactly why will probably never give us the real truth, but it's nice to think that the founder of that hateful group didn't believe his own crap and had a change of heart near the end.  I guess the most tragic thing about his death to me is that he is leaving the world after living the way he did.  I know it probably sounds super corny, but if I were near his deathbed right now I'd honestly kind of want to hug him, even if he doesn't deserve it.  I can't imagine what it must feel like preparing to die surrounded by people you've tortured, after devoting your life to torturing people, but it's probably pretty awful.    What do you think?
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Re: Fred Phelps is apparently near death
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2014, 06:57:52 am »
I would really like to hear about the apparent excommunication. And if he has been excommunicated how can the church be keeping the rest of his family away from him?

If he has been excommunicated will his own church picket his funeral?

I would like to think that his funeral could be undisturbed but then I think that his family might only understand the terrible pain they cause if it is inflicted on them? Then again that assumes that they do in fact love him and wouldn't rather the attention.

Ultimately though I hope his grave becomes a gay hang out -hell I would get my picture taken over his grave kissing a bloke and I am straight.
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Re: Fred Phelps is apparently near death
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2014, 07:08:20 am »
I wonder what got him ex-communicated. didn't he start the church? Oh well, he can't die soon enough for me anyways
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Re: Fred Phelps is apparently near death
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2014, 08:28:10 am »
Eeh, we all gotta die, eventually.  Fred Phelps is no exception.
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Re: Fred Phelps is apparently near death
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2014, 11:23:26 am »
Quote from: Dakota Bob on March 16, 2014, 07:08:20 am
I wonder what got him ex-communicated. didn't he start the church? Oh well, he can't die soon enough for me anyways

Given his virulent homophobia my guess is he confessed to having engaged in a homosexual act or two thousand.
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Re: Fred Phelps is apparently near death
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2014, 12:28:42 pm »
Quote from: davedan on March 16, 2014, 11:23:26 am
Quote from: Dakota Bob on March 16, 2014, 07:08:20 am
I wonder what got him ex-communicated. didn't he start the church? Oh well, he can't die soon enough for me anyways

Given his virulent homophobia my guess is he confessed to having engaged in a homosexual act or two thousand.

Not even necessarily that. The WBC is the prime candidate for a purity crisis and Phelps apparently just wasn't hateful enough.

I wonder who they replaced him with?
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Re: Fred Phelps is apparently near death
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2014, 01:16:49 pm »
Quote from: Ironchew on March 16, 2014, 12:28:42 pm
Quote from: davedan on March 16, 2014, 11:23:26 am
Quote from: Dakota Bob on March 16, 2014, 07:08:20 am
I wonder what got him ex-communicated. didn't he start the church? Oh well, he can't die soon enough for me anyways

Given his virulent homophobia my guess is he confessed to having engaged in a homosexual act or two thousand.

Not even necessarily that. The WBC is the prime candidate for a purity crisis and Phelps apparently just wasn't hateful enough.

I wonder who they replaced him with?

Adolf Stalin.
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Re: Fred Phelps is apparently near death
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2014, 01:43:36 pm »
I'm with the commentors (sp?) saying to let the family have their funeral in peace. I don't like WBC either...hell, I once got my picture in the paper arguing with them at a counterprotest...but I think staging a protest, while possibly justified, would only fuel their martyrdom complex and make them double down on their stance. Better to let them fade into obscurity.

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Re: Fred Phelps is apparently near death
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2014, 02:50:28 pm »
Quote from: Dakota Bob on March 16, 2014, 07:08:20 am
I wonder what got him ex-communicated. didn't he start the church? Oh well, he can't die soon enough for me anyways

Apparently from what I heard, he was excommunicated back in August because his health took a downturn. If that's true, then it's amazing just how the WBC regards people when they'll kick out their own founder because of something like that.

It would be interesting to see if the WBC protests Fred Phelps' funeral, and to see what their reason would be for the protests.
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Re: Fred Phelps is apparently near death
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2014, 02:55:28 pm »
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Re: Fred Phelps is apparently near death
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2014, 02:55:36 pm »
The article does not say Fred Phelps was excommunicated.  It was talking about other former members of the church that have been.
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Re: Fred Phelps is apparently near death
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2014, 02:59:38 pm »
Quote from: m52nickerson on March 16, 2014, 02:55:36 pm
The article does not say Fred Phelps was excommunicated.  It was talking about other former members of the church that have been.

Oh, that explains that. I mean, them excommunicating him for doing what a lot of elderly do on a regular basis would be...well...weird. I was about to go "Did they expect him to be immortal?".
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Re: Fred Phelps is apparently near death
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2014, 03:05:34 pm »
 I think it'd be appropriate to have a bunch of people picket his funeral and if anyone asks why they are doing such awful things to them
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Re: Fred Phelps is apparently near death
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2014, 03:46:36 pm »
Read it again, Fred was excommunicated in August 2013.
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Re: Fred Phelps is apparently near death
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2014, 04:18:23 pm »
Fork 'im.  He was beneath contempt.
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