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Re: College Gunman Influenced by Men's Rights Movement
« Reply #105 on: May 26, 2014, 05:17:55 pm »
The problem I have with Other M (even though I have not played it and never will) is the Character Derailment and possible Canon Defilement involving Samus' character. I mean we've all regarded her as a "badass", even though yes there is a human side to her (like her relationship with the baby Metroid she recovered at the end of Metroid II and that plays a key role in the beginning and final boss of Super Metroid). Other M reduces her to a bratty womanchild and unlike the Samus we know - preferring to work alone - she doesn't do anything unless she is urgently demanded to. I can see the difference between training her to become what we know of her now to acting all frail and worthless. She got reduced to a character almost like that submissive "femme fem" Samus male fans reduce her to in numerous stories (several of them pornographic and just plain disgusting).

I regard Other M with the same amount of contempt as games like Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 and Bomberman: Act Zero; two abominations that have futzed with two other game franchises I've loved and respect. Then there are some people who hold their nose to other potential franchise-killer games, like fans of Crash Bandicoot for example, who regard Crash of the Titans with whole-hearted contempt.

And for a little known character who is like Samus (and predating her existence to the year of 1985), I will not forget the existence of Tobi "Kissy" Masuyo, the protagonist of a little known game Baraduke. Other fun facts include that she got married to Taizo "Dig Dug" Hori and had three sons, the middle child Susumu Hori being the protagonist of Mr. Driller. Sadly their relationship goes to hell and they got divorced, because Taizo is an idiot. Oh, the joy of being in love with little-known, niche video games...

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Re: College Gunman Influenced by Men's Rights Movement
« Reply #106 on: May 26, 2014, 05:21:11 pm »
The PC of Baraduke was a girl?

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Re: College Gunman Influenced by Men's Rights Movement
« Reply #107 on: May 26, 2014, 05:30:31 pm »
Someone else who has heard of Baraduke? And yes. If you're able to reach the end of the game there is a portrait of the player character without her helmet, revealing a woman inside the suit. Much like the end of the original Metroid (if you beat it in enough time).

The player character for the underwhelming, even less known sequel, Takky (who was Kissy's partner in Baraduke, filling as Player 2) is also female. I think, because one Japanese man who is so into classic arcade games did a bunch of pixel dolls of almost every known woman in almost every known arcade game.

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Re: College Gunman Influenced by Men's Rights Movement
« Reply #108 on: May 26, 2014, 05:42:52 pm »
I have trouble feeling any sympathy for him at all. He didn't have the guts to ask a girl that he liked out but had enough to buy weapons and start attacking people. He was a self inolved little shit.  What's iteresting is that he didn't get along with men or women. The lack of ability to make friends meant that he lacked the ability to get girlfriends too.

As for being told you are 'too nice', I'm sorry that means one of two things either that you are boring and the person is feeling sorry for you and doesn't want to be harsh or that the person is fucked up with daddy issues. 

We've all known those people who try too hard to be liked (quite inventively we called them 'try-hards') the reason they put you off, apart from the innate insincerity you feel given their propensity to try and pleasure, is that by agreeing with everything they don't have any opinions and provide no challenge. They become boring.

Yeaaaah...sorry, Sirius, I'm not sympathizing with this fucker at all.  He couldn't get his dick wet because he was, quite likely, a creepy prick and decided that, since he didn't get what he was so clearly owed because he had a penis and didn't beat women on sight, that he'd...well, shoot women on sight.

Yes, he had some serious fucking problems, but in the end, he just couldn't own up to potentially having...A FLAW!  He's like my fuckhead cousin that knowingly infected his (now ex-)wife and their child with multiple STDs because he's a god damned sociopath with a massive superiority complex.

What he (both this fucker and my cousin) was both monstrous and unforgivable.  I understand why he did it, but I will never sympathize with him.  Outside him going to prison, what happened was the closest the victims will get to proper justice.
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Re: College Gunman Influenced by Men's Rights Movement
« Reply #109 on: May 26, 2014, 05:43:36 pm »
Also, we should make the phrase "Not all men." Punishable by flogging.
Okay, provided we apply that to all other groups.
Just so you know, the reason I hate that phrase is because every time someone says something that could even faintly imply something bad about men the MRA's all start screaming it.

I'd go a step further and say that I'm sick of the phrase "Not all (insert group here)".  A lot of the time, the people saying it are the ones that fall into the negative stereotype.
That's easy to say when it's a member of a dominant group using that line.  But what if it's a member of an oppressed minority saying it?
Well even then you could probably come up with a better argument.

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Re: College Gunman Influenced by Men's Rights Movement
« Reply #110 on: May 26, 2014, 07:45:35 pm »
"Not all men" reminds me of the apologists of the MLP:FiM fandom spouting "But we're not all like that", oblivious to the issue. I can't even stand that phrase.

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The "not all men" line derails discussions because the person it is used against typically has made no actual statements implying they consider the majority of men to be guilty of what is being discussed.

If, on the other hand, a person is making an argument that portrays a given group of people as overwhelmingly adhering to a negative characteristic (for instance, if someone were to claim that a fandom was, and I quote "dominated by sociopaths") then it becomes a very valid response.

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Re: College Gunman Influenced by Men's Rights Movement
« Reply #111 on: May 26, 2014, 07:50:23 pm »
Ewwww being autistic and watching the show is a stereotype now?

Thank god i stayed right the fuck away from it
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Re: College Gunman Influenced by Men's Rights Movement
« Reply #112 on: May 26, 2014, 08:39:27 pm »
What is everyone's opinions on the #Yesallwomen thing or the #Yesallpeople thing?

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Re: College Gunman Influenced by Men's Rights Movement
« Reply #113 on: May 26, 2014, 09:03:22 pm »
From the twitters ive read, good concept, but i doubt itll do much
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Re: College Gunman Influenced by Men's Rights Movement
« Reply #114 on: May 26, 2014, 09:06:58 pm »
These fucking neckdreads defending him make me sick.

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Re: College Gunman Influenced by Men's Rights Movement
« Reply #115 on: May 26, 2014, 10:39:17 pm »
Saw this on my dash in criticism of all the "not all men" posts that pop up after incidents like this:

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[About the École Polytechnique massacre]

A memorial erected in Vancouver sparked controversy because it was dedicated to "all women murdered by men", which critics say implies all men are potential murderers.  As a result, women involved in the project received death threats and the Vancouver Park Board subsequently banned any future memorials that might "antagonize" other groups.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole_Polytechnique_massacre

The irony is so thick you could choke on it.  Also, the aftermath of this incident seems to be playing out similar to that one; people insisting it's not a case of misogyny, that there's no larger problem and that this an "isolated incident" with "mental issues" being the most convenient scapegoat that has ever existed, and masculinist assholes hailing the criminal as a hero and blaming feminism and women for the violence perpetrated against women because "men are growing frustrated".
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Re: College Gunman Influenced by Men's Rights Movement
« Reply #116 on: May 26, 2014, 11:40:07 pm »
Yeah, how dare women not suck are greasy dicks!

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Re: College Gunman Influenced by Men's Rights Movement
« Reply #117 on: May 26, 2014, 11:47:55 pm »
From the twitters ive read, good concept, but i doubt itll do much
I'm guessing most of the Tweeters know that to a certain degree and are mostly just screaming in hopes of doing something.

Also, just like to say the #Yesallpoeple thing is absurdly cringeworthy.

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Re: College Gunman Influenced by Men's Rights Movement
« Reply #118 on: May 27, 2014, 12:04:01 am »
From the twitters ive read, good concept, but i doubt itll do much
I'm guessing most of the Tweeters know that to a certain degree and are mostly just screaming in hopes of doing something.

Also, just like to say the #Yesallpoeple thing is absurdly cringeworthy.

One of the tweets said that TIME wrote an article accusing the tag of "taking focus away from the issue of mental health".

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Re: College Gunman Influenced by Men's Rights Movement
« Reply #119 on: May 27, 2014, 12:17:20 am »
Am i the only one not actually bothered by the "not all x" concept. Even as a gay man i couldnt care less if a straight guy goes "not all straight people"
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