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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3030 on: July 14, 2019, 06:32:15 pm »
AOC was born in New York. Even so Puerto Rico isn't a country. Rashida Tlaib was born in Detroit. Omar hasn't lived in Somalia since she was ten years old. To equate her with a country she hasn't lived in for twenty six years is fucking ridiculous.

I know. I'm saying there's an argument that the US government is "a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if [it] even [has] a functioning government at all)".
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3031 on: July 15, 2019, 12:50:51 am »
lol most of the congresswomen he's upset with were born in this country so Trump said that we were the greatest and also a total catastropic corrupt disaster.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3032 on: July 16, 2019, 07:42:24 am »
Fake? Hopefully, probably. Believable, well...I'm going with yeah

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3033 on: July 16, 2019, 09:59:36 am »
Fake? Hopefully, probably. Believable, well...I'm going with yeah

Yeah, it's probably from here:

https://faketrumptweet.com

via FakeTrumpTweet.com generator
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3034 on: July 16, 2019, 12:06:30 pm »
The problem is that it's written too coherently with proper spelling and punctuation so it's obvious it's a fake.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3035 on: July 16, 2019, 04:47:37 pm »
That reminds me, I need to get around to mining Trump's tweets to make a Markov generator for him.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3036 on: July 17, 2019, 10:37:06 am »
Can someone explain to me what a vote to condemn Trump's racists tweets accomplishes exactly? It just seems like a wag of the finger. Do they expect Trump to just say oh wait I was wrong I'm sorry? 
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3037 on: July 17, 2019, 10:49:36 am »
Can someone explain to me what a vote to condemn Trump's racists tweets accomplishes exactly? It just seems like a wag of the finger. Do they expect Trump to just say oh wait I was wrong I'm sorry?

Well, it did force all but four Republicans in the House to publicly state that they don't see any racism coming from Donald Trump.  It also showed that they're willing to drag in obscure rules from 1776 if that's what it takes to stop Dems from calling them racist.  Because it's not BEING racist that's the problem, it's that the Dems are calling them racists...

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3038 on: July 17, 2019, 01:36:25 pm »
Anything that forces the Republicans to personally support Trump is good. If used properly by their election opponents it can help mobilize people to vote against them and demotivate at least some of the Republican voters.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3039 on: July 17, 2019, 01:38:46 pm »
So yeah it accomplished nothing. Hardcore Republicans don't accept the racism coming from within their own party. The democrats think it's racist. This will all be blown over by next week. Just another day in America.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3040 on: July 17, 2019, 01:41:28 pm »
Can someone explain to me what a vote to condemn Trump's racists tweets accomplishes exactly? It just seems like a wag of the finger. Do they expect Trump to just say oh wait I was wrong I'm sorry?

It tells international observers that while Trump might say these things, the country does not stand behind him on them. That he speaks only for himself and not for America. Which is an important message.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3041 on: July 17, 2019, 01:44:02 pm »
So yeah it accomplished nothing. Hardcore Republicans don't accept the racism coming from within their own party. The democrats think it's racist. This will all be blown over by next week. Just another day in America.

For sure, some Republicans it will just bring in more voters. If this is the case, though, they would kiss his ass anyway if they know their voters. The point is to prevent those who would like to tactically distance themselves from him from doing so. Those would be the more vulnerable seats, after all.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3042 on: July 17, 2019, 02:47:11 pm »
On the other hand, I've seen it argued that Trump's comments forced House Democrats to back Reps. Ocasio-Cortez, Tlaib, Omar, and Pressley (when there had just been sniping between them and leadership), which Trump and the Republicans can then use as "evidence" that the Democrats are moving too far left.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3043 on: July 17, 2019, 02:52:25 pm »
2020 is going to be ugly for Democrats. Younger Millenial voters want to move more to the left while while older Boomers want things to move to the center. If Biden becomes the nominee it could discourage younger democrats to come out to vote because he'll be seen as too similar to Trump age wise and out of touch with what younger voters want. If Sanders or Warren or Harris or Pete become the nominee it would discourage boomers because socialism is teh scary.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3044 on: July 17, 2019, 03:04:51 pm »
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-racist-tweets-democrats-1.5213048

The article I mentioned in my last post.

As for 2020, one, I laugh at the notion that Harris or Buttigieg would do anything socialist (Buttigieg recently argued against single-payer, for instance), but two, it's still a valid point about older voters being more frightened of the term "socialism" than younger voters.

Though when you look at polls on the issues themselves, voters like socialist programs (Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are among the most popular programs in the US), they just don't know dick all about labels, so they don't realize that those are socialism.
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It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.