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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3630 on: November 21, 2020, 09:11:40 am »
Trump summoned the GOP leadership in Michigan to tell them to send electors that'll vote for him in December.  They told him to get stuffed.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/11/20/biden-adviser-michigan-lawmakers-cant-intervene-election-result/6355274002/

Maybe not in so many words but they're not going to go against the will of the people for this Orange Piss Pot.

Ironbite-if only because they understand the consequences better then he does.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3631 on: November 21, 2020, 01:54:34 pm »
Trump really is leaning into the "Hitler raging out in his bunker" aesthetic.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3632 on: November 21, 2020, 05:24:22 pm »
The sad thing is, it might just end up working, if only because Brian Kemp and Georgia Republicans might figure, well, we stole one election two years ago, what's the harm of stealing another?

EDIT: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-threats-cost-1.5810848

Oh and death threats. Did I mention death threats?
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3633 on: November 21, 2020, 07:39:41 pm »
Thankfully you get further with honey than with vinegar, and Trump is completely inept about this.

Raffensberger concluded the recount and Georgia definitively went to Biden.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3634 on: November 21, 2020, 07:51:41 pm »
Trump can still ask for a recount per Georgia law, and no doubt he will. It's highly unlikely it will change anything, but there'll be a recount there. (The second count was an audit of results; state law requires that a race be recounted, the choice of such to be made by the Secretary of State, and Raffensberger chose the Presidential race due to its close margin and significance.)

It'll be interesting to see how the Senate runoffs play out. My suspicion is that while Biden's win in Georgia wouldn't have been conceivable without Abrams' efforts in voter registration, what tipped the balance was people who voted Republican on all races except the Presidential race, where they voted for Biden, Jorgensen, or nobody at all. So that's enough to put Georgia in the Democratic column for the Electoral College, but won't be enough to flip either Senate seat.

I wonder what the registration rules are for the runoffs.

EDIT: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/pennsylvania-vote-certification-trump-biden-1.5811628

A Trump campaign effort to prevent certification of Pennsylvania's results has been thrown out of court.
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It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3635 on: November 21, 2020, 11:23:18 pm »
WITH PREJUDICED! 

Ironbite-that's cold man.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3636 on: November 22, 2020, 12:16:18 am »
You know, I'm glad the President is such an incompetent buffoon who hired a senile vampire to lead his legal defense.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3637 on: November 22, 2020, 12:20:45 am »
The article I linked above has been updated:

1. Trump is planning an appeal, of course.

2. Trump has requested a recount in Georgia, as is his right.

3. Pat Toomey has acknowledged Joe Biden as President-elect.
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It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3638 on: November 22, 2020, 02:19:15 am »
I wonder if the recount of the recount will get appealed, and Trump will angrily order a recount from there.

He's just gonna keep ordering recounts until he somehow wins Georgia.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3639 on: November 22, 2020, 02:36:31 am »
I wonder if the recount of the recount will get appealed, and Trump will angrily order a recount from there.

He's just gonna keep ordering recounts until he somehow wins Georgia.

Per state law, what's already been done was not a recount; it was an audit of results. For all legal purposes, it was the first count of ballots.

The recount will proceed per the Trump campaign's request; I don't see what legal recourse he'll have should the results show that Biden is still leading. Certainly he'll be out of options for recounts.

Now, extralegal recourse (Brooks Brothers Riot, anyone?) is another matter entirely.
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It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3640 on: November 22, 2020, 09:21:38 am »
Biden's lead in Georgia is 12,000 votes.  Not a huge margin when you think about it but enough.  Every time they did a recount or anything, that lead widened.

Ironbite-I don't think we overturn Georgia.  Trump lost 2 weeks ago and he needs to face that reality.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3641 on: November 22, 2020, 04:19:02 pm »
Georgia isn't being overturned, but the audit actually shrank Biden's lead compared to the initial computer count, from around 14,000 votes to a little under 13,000. Apparently there were some ballots that had missed being fed into the computers at first.
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It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

Quote from: Supreme Court of Canada
Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3642 on: November 22, 2020, 11:30:12 pm »
They fired True Believer Sidney Powell from the Legal Defense Force.  You know, the one who's been spouting the wacky wavy conspiracy theory that Trump actually won and everything we've seen so far is setting us up for a Biblical Fight.  The reason?  She might be costing them the Senate.

Ironbite-the other True Believers are not happy.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3643 on: November 22, 2020, 11:56:48 pm »
Why do they think she might cost them the Senate? Her allegations about Kemp and Raffensberger being in league with Biden?
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It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

Quote from: Supreme Court of Canada
Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #3644 on: November 23, 2020, 12:35:25 am »
I've actually seen a movement from trumpers in Georgia to write in Trump's name instead of voting for the Republican. I say more power to them. Write in Trump's name all you want.
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