My predictions of the future

[Jacob Harrison]

No, it's why secular morality is needed, so that we have a rational, logical means of determining what is acceptable and unacceptable and why that is not just the hopelessly arbitrary standard of "My imaginary dictator said so and you have to do it too even though you don't share my delusions."

As for abortion, I already knew you denied the rights to bodily autonomy, self-determination, and withdrawal of consent and that you are willing to use force to make a woman undergo a dangerous procedure against her will.

But humans disgust to incest when humans evolve will require Christian morality, because with secular morality, there wouldn’t be a rational logical reason that incest is unacceptable, due to the birth control technology available.

[dpareja]

...and if there are no negative ramifications to incest, then why should it be illegal or immoral?

"Because it's gross" or "Because my imaginary dictator said so" are not answers.

[Art Vandelay]

And if you go into the deep south, you still do find really freaking tangled family trees.

It's also the area with the largest infestation of Bible thumpers by far.

But by all means, tell us more about how only Christianity can prevent sister fucking.

[Tolpuddle Martyr]

Um, if having anything but vanilla, married, heterosexual sex is "immoral..."

...then why are we supposed to be taking lessons on morality from a denim-humper, cousin luster and compulsive masturbator who clearly hopes society will be as forgiving of his cousin-lustin' ways as it is currently with homosexuality?

[Jacob Harrison]

...and if there are no negative ramifications to incest, then why should it be illegal or immoral?

"Because it's gross" or "Because my imaginary dictator said so" are not answers.

Because society considers incest to be a heinous unspeakable act. You seriously think that incest between siblings and parents and offspring is morally fine?

[Jacob Harrison]

And if you go into the deep south, you still do find really freaking tangled family trees.

It's also the area with the largest infestation of Bible thumpers by far.

But by all means, tell us more about how only Christianity can prevent sister fucking.

The incest in the South was between cousins not siblings.

[Jacob Harrison]

Um, if having anything but vanilla, married, heterosexual sex is "immoral..."

...then why are we supposed to be taking lessons on morality from a denim-humper, cousin luster and compulsive masturbator who clearly hopes society will be as forgiving of his cousin-lustin' ways as it is currently with homosexuality?

As I said, I did not lust after my cousin, I was shocked and revolted seeing her in towels.

[Tolpuddle Martyr]

Um, if having anything but vanilla, married, heterosexual sex is "immoral..."

...then why are we supposed to be taking lessons on morality from a denim-humper, cousin luster and compulsive masturbator who clearly hopes society will be as forgiving of his cousin-lustin' ways as it is currently with homosexuality?

As I said, I did not lust after my cousin, I was shocked and revolted seeing her in towels.

Sweatily shocked.

Erotically revolted!

[Art Vandelay]

And if you go into the deep south, you still do find really freaking tangled family trees.

It's also the area with the largest infestation of Bible thumpers by far.

But by all means, tell us more about how only Christianity can prevent sister fucking.

The incest in the South was between cousins not siblings.

Say no more. After all, we're all intimately familiar with your feelings on cousin incest.

[dpareja]

...and if there are no negative ramifications to incest, then why should it be illegal or immoral?

"Because it's gross" or "Because my imaginary dictator said so" are not answers.

Because society considers incest to be a heinous unspeakable act. You seriously think that incest between siblings and parents and offspring is morally fine?

That still doesn't say why it should be immoral or illegal. If its current immorality is because of how modern society views it, then in a society that does not view it the same way, it would not be immoral.

[Jacob Harrison]

...and if there are no negative ramifications to incest, then why should it be illegal or immoral?

"Because it's gross" or "Because my imaginary dictator said so" are not answers.

Because society considers incest to be a heinous unspeakable act. You seriously think that incest between siblings and parents and offspring is morally fine?

That still doesn't say why it should be immoral or illegal. If its current immorality is because of how modern society views it, then in a society that does not view it the same way, it would not be immoral.

Does it concern you that future society will have different morals from today? That is why we need Christian morality because it does not change with time.

[dpareja]

...and if there are no negative ramifications to incest, then why should it be illegal or immoral?

"Because it's gross" or "Because my imaginary dictator said so" are not answers.

Because society considers incest to be a heinous unspeakable act. You seriously think that incest between siblings and parents and offspring is morally fine?

That still doesn't say why it should be immoral or illegal. If its current immorality is because of how modern society views it, then in a society that does not view it the same way, it would not be immoral.

Does it concern you that future society will have different morals from today? That is why we need Christian morality because it does not change with time.

Not really, because our society has different morals than past societies. That doesn't bother me, so the thought that a future society would have morals different from this one doesn't either. Slavery was once acceptable; it no longer is (even though your Bible sanctions it--even in the New Testament).

[niam2023]

No, it's why secular morality is needed, so that we have a rational, logical means of determining what is acceptable and unacceptable and why that is not just the hopelessly arbitrary standard of "My imaginary dictator said so and you have to do it too even though you don't share my delusions."

As for abortion, I already knew you denied the rights to bodily autonomy, self-determination, and withdrawal of consent and that you are willing to use force to make a woman undergo a dangerous procedure against her will.

But humans disgust to incest when humans evolve will require Christian morality, because with secular morality, there wouldn’t be a rational logical reason that incest is unacceptable, due to the birth control technology available.

Uh yeah about that, incest was most accepted during times of high Christian morality. Just see the many centuries of rule by the Habsburg Dynasty. They even spread their "keeping the bloodline pure" nonsense throughout Europe, to the extent every Monarch waging war in World War 1 was related in a number of ways.

In fact, it was only going forward when the world became more secular and less dependent on monarchs who allegedly received their mandate from "heaven" that incest became more frowned upon.

[niam2023]

...and if there are no negative ramifications to incest, then why should it be illegal or immoral?

"Because it's gross" or "Because my imaginary dictator said so" are not answers.

Because society considers incest to be a heinous unspeakable act. You seriously think that incest between siblings and parents and offspring is morally fine?

That still doesn't say why it should be immoral or illegal. If its current immorality is because of how modern society views it, then in a society that does not view it the same way, it would not be immoral.

Does it concern you that future society will have different morals from today? That is why we need Christian morality because it does not change with time.

No it doesn't frighten me at all. Change is natural and should be tackled moment by moment, and I would have people totally cast off anything unchanging.

[Tolpuddle Martyr]

Also "Christian morals don't change with time?" Let me answer with the mother of all belly laughs! One word, 'slavery.' Now tell me with a straight face that Christian attitudes to that have remained consistent since your precious Roman Empire.