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Offline dpareja

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Two mass shootings in a day
« on: August 04, 2019, 05:51:34 pm »
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/el-paso-mass-shooting-1.5236055
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/dayton-ohio-mass-shooting-1.5236046

20 people in El Paso, followed by nine in Dayton. Death penalty sought in the former case; shooter killed by police in the latter.

But, as has been noted, after Sandy Hook came and went with no action, it became obvious the US would never do anything to address its gun problem.
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Re: Two mass shootings in a day
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2019, 10:03:23 pm »
Those darn video games making the kids all violent.
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Re: Two mass shootings in a day
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2019, 03:10:15 am »
Those darn video games making the kids all violent.

That's EXACTLY what the Republican Party is arguing today...

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Re: Two mass shootings in a day
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2019, 03:53:43 am »
Republican: Well we can't argue white supremacy is responsible. We love Hitler, lynching, and white supremacy!
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Re: Two mass shootings in a day
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2019, 04:20:55 pm »
There's a million other things going down but yeah video games are to blame.

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Re: Two mass shootings in a day
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2019, 09:54:04 pm »
My father in law was listening to Limbaugh in the other room today and he was ranting about violent TV shows and music and video games, of course completely no mention of St. Trump's rhetoric.
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Re: Two mass shootings in a day
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2019, 10:52:06 pm »
Let me guess; "why oh why can't they just watch nothing but Christian TV and right wing programming!?"
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Re: Two mass shootings in a day
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2019, 12:42:18 am »
I didn't stick around for his "solutions." I also don't really care to hear them.
Also the right is having a field day with the Dayton Ohio shooter and his leftist Twitter posts.
Fox news is also on a poor Trump message nobody blamed Clinton or W or Obama for mass shootings why would you blame poor witty bitty Twump?
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Re: Two mass shootings in a day
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2019, 03:57:23 pm »
The Ohio monster said he didn't like concentration camps.  That's as far left as he got.

Ironbite-he also killed his own sister and her boyfriend so....

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Re: Two mass shootings in a day
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2019, 12:30:43 am »
The Ohio monster said he didn't like concentration camps.  That's as far left as he got.

Ironbite-he also killed his own sister and her boyfriend so....

He was a supporter of Antifa, but it's pretty clear from his Twitter feed that he only supported Antifa as an excuse to hurt people... And was constantly whining that they should move up to murder.

Otherwise, the Dayton shooter has a lot in common with the other white supremacist shooters; misogyny and the belief that the US needs to be destroyed before progress can be made being prime examples.

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Re: Two mass shootings in a day
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2019, 12:56:09 am »
He was the kind of guy who'd call himself a feminist and then get kicked out of online forums and group chats for sexually harassing women. Because he was a contrarian edgy little incel.

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Re: Two mass shootings in a day
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2019, 09:39:52 am »
The whole "antifa supporter" thing seems to come from the fact Buzzfeed reported that some dude from Neckbeard Deathcamp aknowledged tweeted he was a previous band member, described him as anti fascist. Neckbeard Deathcamp do have an antifa sticker as their logo. Also Snopes and CNN has established he supported left wing causes and candidates.

This is a screenshot of the tweet from the article.



After deleting that tweet Neckbeard Deathcamp flat out said he was never a member of their band.



What to make of all this? Despite Buzzfeeds interpretation all the first (deleted) tweet tells me is some that some rocker said "holy fuck, I know that dude", in a scene that's as small as grindcore is that's entirely possible without them jamming together. He also described him as "anti fascist", whether that means the same thing as "Antifa" depends on who you ask. His twitter account said supportive things of antifa, spoke out against Nazis and-get this opposed gun violence. Regardless there's nothing stopping people on the left side of politics from being shitheads it would still make one anti fascist mass shooter as opposed to 16 far right mass shooters killing 175 in the past eight years whose killings were clearly linked to their ideology. It's not clear if Connor Betts's mass shooting, his rape list or his le edgy gonzo "pornogrind" band with it's rapey lyrics had fuck all to do with leftist or antifa ideologies. I can't even find any Stalinist Spartacist tankies, the sort who think Uncle Joe was great, who'd say rape is good or random mass shootings of innocent civilians are groovy.

As far as I can see he was a violent misogynist mass killer in spite of his leftist leanings-not because of them. Yeah, I know Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot et al literally did mass killings but those guys did their killing with a clear 'ends justifies the means' rationale coached in a justification that it'd further the cause of communism. And yes those actions were objectively loathsome but their perpetrators put their justifications for all to see in black and white. Same with the doings of the Red Army Faction, Symbionese Liberation Army, FARC etc. I don't see that coming from Betts, correct me if I'm wrong but I don't see it. 

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Re: Two mass shootings in a day
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2019, 12:46:36 pm »
It's basically the right wing telling you to ignore the El Paso shooter and pay attention to this leftist communist Bernie/Warren supporter and how he had a political agenda when he killed those 9 people even though that hasn't been proven. Member Antifa is the problem they are scary and funded by George Soros who wants to continue running child prostitution rings underneath pizza joints in DC. Now is not the time to talk about gun violence in America because there's violent video games. Rinse and repeat see you next mass shooting.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2019, 03:41:29 pm by Id82 »
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Re: Two mass shootings in a day
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2019, 05:00:10 am »
Yeah Betts just seems like a sick freak. It's not the same as all the nazis who have been killing because they're actual terrorists.

Also one of the victims was reported as his sister, but I've seen reports indicating he was a trans guy. So yeah, this Connor dude killed his brother who was trans.
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2019/08/friends-say-dayton-shooters-slain-sibling-transgender-man/

Which is funny (and by that I mean fucking depressing) because GenderCritical over on reddit blamed those darn transes and their ideology for this toxic man putting the dreaded... PRONOUNS in his twitter bio.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCynical/comments/cmr528/the_dayton_shooters_twitter_mentioned_his/