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Re: The war in Syria is changing
« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2019, 08:44:25 am »
I suppose he saw this as his opportunity to have a similar announcement like the one Obama did when Osama was killed.

Yeah but Al Baghdadi doesn't have the same notoriety as Bin Laden. He's the second leader of ISIS and another will stand up and take his place.
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Re: The war in Syria is changing
« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2019, 08:46:00 am »
I suppose he saw this as his opportunity to have a similar announcement like the one Obama did when Osama was killed.

Yeah but Al Baghdadi doesn't have the same notoriety as Bin Laden. He's the second leader of ISIS and another will stand up and take his place.

I wouldn't put it past Trump for taking all the credit for this despite probably having no involvement in it whatsoever.
It will probably give him a little polling bump as he parades it around as a distraction, but the impeachment news will come trickling back in.
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Re: The war in Syria is changing
« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2019, 10:48:06 am »
He's probably hoping this'll wash away his blunder, and that his decision to keep troops in the oil fields will block Russia and the Syrian government. But he's already proven himself to be far too erratic and unpredictable to trust.

Not only was this a massive strategic blunder on Trump's part, it was also really bad from a self-preservation standpoint. Since the American government and public overwhelmingly supports the Kurds, his betrayal of them (and yes, it's specifically his betrayal, since he acted unilaterally) will do nothing but alienate people who might otherwise have supported him. You'd think he'd put a greater priority on optics, seeing as he's facing impeachment, but apparently even his sense of self-interest is starting to go.

Times like this I wish I had time travel and mind control powers.

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Re: The war in Syria is changing
« Reply #33 on: October 27, 2019, 11:15:05 am »
This will demoralize ISIS, but it won't stop Russia, Turkey or Syria.
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Re: The war in Syria is changing
« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2019, 12:25:30 pm »
Oh, and Erdogan wants nukes. Wonderful.

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Re: The war in Syria is changing
« Reply #35 on: October 27, 2019, 05:15:45 pm »
Well, according to Trump, al-Baghdadi's dead. Great news if true, but I'm not holding my breath until it's confirmed.

Also, Trump seems to be fixated on Syria's oil fields.

And this whole op happened IN SPITE OF THE ORANGE PISS POT!

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Re: The war in Syria is changing
« Reply #36 on: October 27, 2019, 09:21:22 pm »
Trump claims that he signed off on it and he didn't notify Congress that this was going to happen. He then spent his whole press conference constantly reminding people that Al Baghdadi died like a scared little baby and that Al Baghdadi was bigger than Bin laden ever was because Trump killed him.
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Re: The war in Syria is changing
« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2019, 02:20:17 am »
Al-Baghdadi's death is a significant blow to Daesh, to be sure, but it won't destroy the group. Daesh's members are committed to an ideology, rather than any particular individuals. So Trump's implications that this put the final nail in the coffin are premature at best.

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Re: The war in Syria is changing
« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2019, 04:05:38 am »
Have I cracked the code? Trump did claim that killing Al Baghdadi is more meaningful than killing Osama: https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-isis-al-baghdadis-death-more-significant-than-bin-ladens-2019-10?r=US&IR=T
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Re: The war in Syria is changing
« Reply #39 on: October 28, 2019, 09:05:25 pm »
I still don't fully trust the news of Al-Bagdhadi's death. That dude has popped up again at least once after being declared "dead". Do we have a body?

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Re: The war in Syria is changing
« Reply #40 on: October 28, 2019, 09:54:13 pm »
I still don't fully trust the news of Al-Bagdhadi's death. That dude has popped up again at least once after being declared "dead". Do we have a body?

They did DNA testing on his remains, so I'm pretty confident he's dead.

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Re: The war in Syria is changing
« Reply #41 on: October 28, 2019, 11:44:28 pm »
I still don't fully trust the news of Al-Bagdhadi's death. That dude has popped up again at least once after being declared "dead". Do we have a body?

They did DNA testing on his remains, so I'm pretty confident he's dead.

Thanks. That legitimately assuages my fears about that shit.

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Re: The war in Syria is changing
« Reply #42 on: October 30, 2019, 06:26:34 pm »
NGL, I half-expect Trump to write a book in a few years called Donald Trump's Art of the War: How I Personally Killed That ICE Guy.

In more serious news, the House advanced a bill imposing sanctions on Turkey, and also passed a resolution recognizing the Armenian genocide.

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Re: The war in Syria is changing
« Reply #43 on: October 30, 2019, 06:46:23 pm »
I'm sure that won't be taken up in the Senate.
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Re: The war in Syria is changing
« Reply #44 on: October 30, 2019, 06:53:31 pm »
Yeah, not when they want to play footsie with as many dictatorships as possible, and pander to the alt-right, the President's VERY FINE PEOPLE.
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