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Quote from: Lt. Fred on May 02, 2013, 08:40:33 amI'd quite like to own Belgium based on land claims in my holy book. The Anglo-Saxons shouldn't mind, they have the rest of Europe, after all. I'm not happy to live with any of the smelly locals though. I guess the French will have to find the Belgians somewhere to live.While I personally believe in the whole "Chosen People" deal, I do accept that that carries no real weight with anyone else. I consider the State of Israel's legitimacy to stem from the will of its people, just like every other nation... including Palestine.
I'd quite like to own Belgium based on land claims in my holy book. The Anglo-Saxons shouldn't mind, they have the rest of Europe, after all. I'm not happy to live with any of the smelly locals though. I guess the French will have to find the Belgians somewhere to live.
Quote from: Meshakhad on May 02, 2013, 10:49:01 amQuote from: Lt. Fred on May 02, 2013, 08:40:33 amI'd quite like to own Belgium based on land claims in my holy book. The Anglo-Saxons shouldn't mind, they have the rest of Europe, after all. I'm not happy to live with any of the smelly locals though. I guess the French will have to find the Belgians somewhere to live.While I personally believe in the whole "Chosen People" deal, I do accept that that carries no real weight with anyone else. I consider the State of Israel's legitimacy to stem from the will of its people, just like every other nation... including Palestine.There are two grounds for establishing land ownership:Personal. If this sort of ownership were accepted, a Jewish state could not exist in Palestine. There'd be an unrestricted right of return (because Palestinians own the land they lived on when ethnically cleansed, as individuals).Collective. If this sort of ownership were accepted, a Jewish state could not exist in Palestine. A religious claim made by Germans and Poles to own land in Arabia is obviously silly.Israel exists on the sufferance of the international community. It has no rights, just privileges granted because we're nice (and I think that's fair enough). Maybe the people who actually do have rights could exercise them?
Why did Israel have to be there though? If the Allies cared so much, they should've given up some of their land instead.
I sympathize completely. However, to use against us. Let me ask you a troll. On the one who pulled it. But here's the question: where do I think it might as well have stepped out of all people would cling to a layman.
OMG that PP misrep is how old now? 20 years? On a 50 year old quote out -of-critical-fucking-context from Sanger. Why won't it die? Well, I guess the same reason birther b.s. won't, either.
What the fuck is going on with that baby's eyes?!