Hey Crowfood I just started a debate with Amos about predestination too.
When I put sufficient pressure on Amos in our first battle, he told me that he was part of the "invisible Church" and that he attends a Lutheran Church physically. He also provided me with the Doctrine of his invisible church. I thought you might be interested in it.
I thought you'd get a kick out of how I managed to get him to admit to his religion.
I told him that he should tell me or it would show that he is ashamed of Jesus. I think I said that there should be nothing to hide in a Doctrine of any church, and he should be happy to show it to anyone interested so they might choose your faith to follow. Something like that anyway, it was all about the shame that got to him that made him tell me anything about those subjects.
I'll attach the doctrine he gave me too.
Thought you might like this information Crowfood, in case it will help you with your battle, oops I mean with the discussion you are having with Amos. Do you think with two of us pelting scriptures at him to prove him wrong about predestination, he might collapse from it? Lady had better give him more support than just up-voting his posts if she doesn't want him to start to questioning their 'doctrine' and believing ours about predestination. There is a saying "Two heads are better than one" so Crowfood, we should have more together than individually.
I have to be offline most of today so I will begin again this evening.
Have fun, and enjoy the "read"... Blessings!